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Judges on Record: CHARLES J ROBERTS, JOHN D MOXLEY JR, KELLY JO McKIBBEN



http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/30/authorities_watch_the_seas_for_missing_boy.html

"We've spent a lot of time with Luke and Paul, and we really don't see it. He was very protective of him. My daughter would play with him and he was always making sure everything was OK," Bombriant said.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/at-st-petersburg-marina-boaters-worry-about-father-son-he-may-have-abducted/1055279

People who got to know Martikainen at the marina described him as a nice, friendly guy who often brought doughnuts to share with other boaters.

Scaratt, Martikainen's neighbor at the marina, said Martikainen has dual citizenship and said he once served in the military in Finland. "He never gave an indication that he was capable of this," Scaratt said.

http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20091130/NEWS01/91130002/Cocoa-boy-s-mom-begs-for-son-s-return

caringmotherof2 wrote:

Just because they had a court appointed supervisor doesn't mean it was somebody with the Governorment/Courts. I have this same judge and he allows family members of the father to do the supervision and one they don't stay with him at all times so he is still allowed to have the drugs around my son and drive him around with no license and the judge doesn't care one bit nor does the sheriffs office. I have tried and tried and continue to try to protect my son but brevard county/and the state of Florida just don't care about the children. I do hope this child comes home safley, I know how this mother must feel because I worry everytime my child must go. We need to get Florida to change there laws for one and two get these jugdes off there high horses because they are not God like they seem to think they are. My prayers our with the family for a safe return 11/30/2009 3:29:09 PM

SarahPBC wrote:

I knew Paul in high school (Lake Worth High Palm Beach County Florida) and he was a toolbag then. He had a real hot temper and was arrogant as Hell. He was not a good person then, and obviously is not a good person now. He got shot in the stomach in 1993 by his former roommate. They need to start checking out his family and see if he tried to get to them. 11/30/2009 2:54:00 PM

http://www.bloggernews.net/123134

rem said,
in November 29th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

you people really need a reality check. people are so fast to cast the first stone without knowing what’s really going on. this man did not abuse this child! and i can tell you i know for sure. the mother-and all of you are or know someone like this-was throwing allegations left and right for vengeful reasons. she bought that child to him! wanted him to be a part of his life. then when they split she started this crap. And that’s all it really is. It’s really sad that courts are more for mother’s rights than father rights! and i am a woman saying that. it’s funny that women can “allege” anything they want. and people actually believe it.

rem said,
in November 29th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

yeah, i don’t think so. you really don’t know what the heck you are talking about. wouldn’t it be wonderful if we could so easily generalize everyone into a scenerio. yes he plotted. has it ever crossed your mind that maybe he didn’t want to spend anymore time fighting a losing battle with “false allegations” and just wanted to have fair time in his son’s life?? really can you not imagine in your wildest dreams that a father might want that??? there are some fathers out there that do want to spend time with their children. too bad you only see black and white. i’m not saying that what he did is fair. the child should see his mother also. but i can say that i understand. i know more about this story than you do. trust me when i say that the allegations are false. they are vengeful only. THAT’S WHY THEY WERE ALL DISMISSED!

rem said,
in November 29th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

be careful at throwing stones at people. one day they could be thrown at you. How would you like there to be only one version of a story about you and your past. It’s not easy being judged by a world of people who have no idea what you’ve been through. He did everything the court asked of him. He NEVER hurt that child. And yet a woman can stand in court and cry abuse and whatever the hell she wants to no end and waste an entire court system’s time. I’m not saying there aren’t some women going through the real thing. but just realize that there are also some that use other women’s real life true abusive situations to manipulate the court system. really, keep an open mind that that can happen. and it does. everyday. just to satisfy some need to have the power to keep a father away. She has charges against her for violence. anyone want to bring that up????

rem said,
in November 29th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

By the way, there are no charges from the time they were together. no domestic violence. no calls to 911 from neighbors. not one thing or charge. but since a custody battle got in gear-she started everything under the sun. i agree with everyone-taking the child is not the smartest thing to do-but what do you do when you feel like you may never see your child again for no reason. really if the powers that be could be reversed and some mother’s lose their rights for or rather have to spend more time clearing their name for the sake of seeing their child maybe some of you would rethink how someone could do something like this. He didn’t take this child to hurt him. He just wants to be in his life. I’m sorry to all the women who genuinely don’t deserve to go through this kind of thing. But to those of you who just want to be difficult and spend time trying to keep your child away from their parent who really does love them and care for them-shame on you!you deserve the drama you bring on yourself.

rem said,
in November 29th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

feel free to look her up. you guys seem so good at finding stuff on him. mind you-don’t you think there would be charges of violence before her??? Or maybe you people are right and he just became violent all of a sudden at the age of 36….Come on….The most recent charge was from the mother-in-law who scuffed her arm on his car over a year ago. She had the child by shirt trying to yank him out of a seatbelted car seat. guess what? she screamed abuse. She scuffed her own arm because her grip let go of his shirt. and it all happened in front of the police station. but not a cop in sight. so guess who’s story wins?? really, i’d love to be like-all women are righteous and never do wrong-but i know better!

rem said,
in November 29th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

exactly, thank you to paw69 for catching that. why did he have supervised visits when all of the allegations were dismissed???? that’s what he wondered…..

rem said,
in November 29th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

and paw69-you are right-atleast he was getting to see him supervised. and i’m sorry that he thought this would be a better option. But maybe fear of not getting to see him at all in the future for whatever the next hoop she chose to throw out there scared him. Up to this point he did everything the court asked of him and even what she asked of him. this is really a more sad story than people realize..he couldn’t afford a lawyer. he fought all his court battles representing himself. not an easy feat when you are fighting a highly paid and educated lawyer.

rem said,
in November 29th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

i don’t condone his behavior either. trust me. but i appreciate that you can see the other side. i think he had a public defender but hey weren’t trying very hard. he thought he could fight harder for his child than a public defender would/was.

rem said,
in November 30th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

hello? i’m here. but i have a job! i’m at work and i’ll be more than happy to join this nonsense later tonight! and i’m not his mother! and FLgal-you do NOT know that him. If you did then you would know better. If you want to take up for that side of the family then that’s fine but don’t go making s— up. all of you can come up with your own versions of this story if you want to. there’s nothing i could say to change your mind if you already have him judged.May the flames of hell lick all of your feet that are so quick to judge someone. really. i never believed people could be so judgemental when they don’t have a clue. And yes i’ve seen them behind closed doors. And i can tell you what he did was stupid(kidnapping) but he would not hurt that child. And has never hurt that child. i wouldn’t defend him if i for one second thought that may be true. And just watching how everyone jumped the bandwagon to say i was his mother proves how the blind lead the blind. to all those who follow-happy trails.

rem said,
in November 30th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

you know what-you all can lick those flames yourself. i’m not defending WHAT he did. I’m defending his relationship to his SON. And you can bring up what ever your heart desires. If you don’t know him then you can’t imply what was going through his head. I DO NOT condone the taking of a child for any reason. but i can say that i know he loves his child. He already lost one to a Drunk Driver. I’m sure he just didn’t want to lose another child. And shame on everyone who can be so judgemental of me or him. And while you are pointing those fingers why not announce who you really are while you do it instead of hiding behind screen names?? I’m done. Like you say St Nick-who are you to judge?-there IS a higher power who is responsible for that(and by the way-grow up..). I’m not going to involve myself in these discussions anymore. It’s not helping find to find them and it’s breaking my heart. Thank you to those of you who could see the difference in my discussion between what he did(not condoned) and his love for Luke(sincerely admired). I’m praying for their safety. And to all of those who insinuate-I had no knowledge or assistance in his endeavor. I merely agree that it must have been planned… I DON’T believe it was the right thing to do. And on his behalf-I’m sorry….

http://dastardlydads.blogspot.com/2009/11/allegedly-abusive-dad-kidnaps-3-year.html

ruth.martikainen said...

ok smart---. look here. you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. all you know is that this man was "alleged" aka accused of abuse. by the woman who chose to have a second child with him. she wanted him to be in that child's life. until he didn't want to be with her anymore. when he started fighting for his rights-she started accusing him of everything under the sun for vengeful reasons! and don't tell me you people have never heard of a woman doing this. Funny that the courts could never press charges! All the ---- allegations were DISMISSED! I think after jumping through hoops for so long and not getting anywhere-maybe people think a little more irrational but that doesn't make them bad. Maybe the people who push others to this should hold some responsibility on this issue. I know-for a FACT!- that he would not hurt that child. And I hope they get away! November 29, 2009 4:06 PM